Thursday, March 09, 2006

The Infamous Ludious/Ghoulardi Traitor Debate and Totally Insane Snikt Freakout

Ghoulardi: Ludious would never get banned
Ghoulardi: But he might get hung, since he's a traitor.
Ludious: A traitor/
Ludious: ?
Ludious: Who have I betrayed?
jr: the REPUBLIC!
Ghoulardi: Yes. You betrayed the United States of America by defending the South.
jr: now kill some sandpeople and have a good cry
Ludious: fuck the Republic. I'm creating the Empire of Funk and naming myself the Dean of Funkology.
Ghoulardi: The CSA were traitors.
Ludious: Errrrr. Yeah. See I wasn't BORN during the Civil War. See, I'm twenty two years old.
Ludious: I live in the modern south. You know. We have BROADBAND internet now.
Ghoulardi: Yes, but you defended the display of the rebel flag
Ghoulardi: That's treason
Ludious: And you're trolling.
jr: the dukes of hazard was treasonous?
Ghoulardi: It's a symbol of sedition.
jr: woah
SilentBobX: Rebel flag. Big whoop
Todd: Ludious is on the internet through a series of cans and strings
SilentBobX: They had Dukesfest here recently
Ghoulardi: Not trolling, sir. Exercising my patriotic duty to point out that you've spoken treasonously.
Ludious: All I said was that a lot of rednecks who hang up the rebel flag don't think of it as being racist and/or treason. It's just a thing to them. They're IGNORANT.
Ghoulardi: So now you're saying that it IS treasonous to display it?
Ghoulardi: That's not what you were saying yesterday.
Ludious: It's not Treason. And if it is treason, no one in modern times has ever been convicted of it.
Ghoulardi: It's a symbol of sedition. Which means that the person displaying it is advertising that they are against the US government.
Ludious: Ok Ghoulardi. You've said that at least 50 times now. However, you know as well as I do that the law is only the law as far as it is ENFORCED. When was the last time someone was arrested and prosecuted for Treason for displaying a rebel flag?
Ludious: Give me hard evidence here.
jr: yeah Ghoul, you should have them all rounded up and thrown in concentration camps
Ghoulardi: People have been jailed for burning an American flag
Ghoulardi: I see no difference.
Ludious: Wow you've never taken a logic class in your life have you?
Ludious: Fallacies in your arguement left and right.
jr: who got arrested for burning a flag
Ghoulardi: Other than the fact that rednecks seem to be the prime displayers of the rebel flag
jr: yes well
jr: you should purge the 'rednecks'
Todd: Did I start this argument?
Todd: I wish I did
jr: once they're all dead, you won't have a problem Ghoulardi
Ludious: No Todd, Ghoul is rehashing shit from yesterday.
Ghoulardi: You're just pissed because I pointed out that all you Johnny Reb Southern "Conservatives" are a bunch of Unamerican traitors.
Todd: But I started that one!
jr: congrats, Todd
Ludious: Probably attempting to get me rebanned. Which isn't very hard to do, because all I have to do to achieve that is twitch my nose the wrong way.
Todd: yay!
Todd: ;)
Ghoulardi: Not at all
jr: its not what you do Ludious
jr: its what you don't do
Ghoulardi: Let's look at a good Southern Conservative...
jr: i.e.
Ghoulardi: A churchgoing man...
jr: get down on all fours
Ghoulardi: Pro-life...
Ghoulardi: His name was Eric Robert Rudolph
Ludious: Just an FYI Ghoul, I've never owned and/or displayed a rebel flag personally in my entire life.
Ghoulardi: He so hated the government and the government's allowance of abortion that he started bombing things
Ludious: Ok Ghoul, so EVERY southerner is like that?
Ghoulardi: That's a good Southern gentleman for you
Ghoulardi: Actually, Lud...
Ludious: That's trolling. You just trolled.
Ghoulardi: The people in North Carolina HID HIM
Ghoulardi: That's not trolling
Ludious: ok.
Ghoulardi: That's TRUTH
Ludious: so EVERY SOUTHERNER is like that?
Ludious: say it.
Ghoulardi: Every single person who gave him aid and comfort should have been tried along with him...as TERRORISTS
Ghoulardi: But, your president won't do that, because he doesn't want to offend his voting base.
jr: and SHOT
Ludious: You won't answer my question Ghoul. It's a very simple question.
Ghoulardi: You've never answered one of my points
jr: just like all those americans who give money to the IRA on St Patricks day, eh Ghoulardi?
Ludious: If you're an american he's YOUR president too, like it or not.
jr: they should all be tried as terrorists too
jr: ?
Ghoulardi: Except NOW, you're trying to backtrack
Ludious: What point would you like me to answer?
Ludious: Repost it and I will answer it
Ghoulardi: You're trying to say it's NOT OK to display rebel flags...not what you said last night
Ghoulardi: And you're trying to say that you were against the idea of it in the first place
Ludious: No. It's FINE to post rebel flags. It's STUPID to do so. But FINE. You say it's TREASON but I say WHO HAS EVER BEEN CONVICTED FOR IT?
Ghoulardi: The problem is, you actively defended it.
Ludious: I answered you, you FUCKING answer me
jr defends it
jr waves that flag off the General Lee
Ghoulardi: It's NOT fine, though.
jr: why isn't it fine?
Ghoulardi: That's like flying a swastika
Ludious: WHO HAS EVER BEEN CONVICTED FOR IT?
Ludious: WHO HAS EVER BEEN CONVICTED FOR IT?
Ghoulardi: Maybe you should be convicted for it, since you're the traitor defending it
Ghoulardi: You're quite Unamerican, Ludious
jr is also Unamerican
Ludious: Yes. I'm so very unamerican.
jr: its ok Ludious
Ludious: And you're a troll.
jr: its not all bad
Ludious: And everyone in here with common sense KNOWS this.
JennGirl: nah....he's just Adam
Todd: Unamerican? How dare he exist!
Ghoulardi: Soft on terrorism. Soft on treason. Typical Republican.
Ludious rolls his eyes
Ludious: Big on Ego low on Intelligence. Typical Liberal
Ghoulardi: Maybe you're only soft on terror because Nintendo didn't raise you right.
Ludious gets out his BROAD SWEEPING PAINTBRUSH
Ludious: Since we're having so much fun.
jr: GUHH
jr: wasn't the US flag a 'rebel' flag originally
Ghoulardi: Yes.
Ghoulardi: But we WON.
Ghoulardi: That's why it's OK to display that one.
Ghoulardi: Had we not, you better believe the Crown would have strung up anyone who displayed it.
Ludious: jr: Isn't that a republican philosophy? :P
jr: so I reckon their flag is ok then
Ghoulardi: Treason is still treason.
jr: self-righteousness certainly is still ongoing
Ghoulardi: Not at all, jr. They're flying it in defiance of US law.
Ludious: They're stupid but it's hardly treason. No one is trying to overthrow the government. They're not even smart enough to check their email how are they going to overthrow a government?
Ghoulardi: It's a symbol of sedition.
Ghoulardi: The flag represents an attempt to overthrow the lawful government of the country. That does actually make it treasonous to display it.
Ludious: jr: Nobody does. He's saying it's treason but he can't provide a bit of evidence that shows that anyone has ever been convicted of displaying the flag. As I said earlier.The law is only the law insofar as it's ENFORCED. It's probably illegal to walk backwards on Thursdays in some state, but nobody is convicted for it.
Ghoulardi: You don't have to be convicted for it to be a crime, Ludious
Ludious: I'm sure you a criminal too Ghoulardi. If you've downloaded over a gig of mp3
Ludious: 's
Ludious: you're a felon
Ludious: or you've COMMITED a felony
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Ghoulardi: It's simply the truth that it IS a symbol of sedition, and display of it constitutes endorsement of sedtion. This would be a crime known as treason.
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jr: why do you care, Ghoulardi
Ludious: oh god.
Ghoulardi: Actually, I have a bunch of mp3s I put ON to my computer.
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Ghoulardi: I encode at too high a bitrate to go around downloading. It all sounds like crap
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Todd: He was asking for it
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Ghoulardi: ?
Todd: !
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Ghoulardi: OK...
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jr: shes gone into a viking berzerker rage
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Ghoulardi: Apparently
Todd: snikt gone mad!
Ludious: Ghoul, you've still never answered me. You say I backpedalled from yesterday. I disagree; however, you most certainly have. Yesterday you proclaimed that -all- Southerners were evil/traitors/etc.
Ludious: You specifically stated ALL.
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RaretowN: carnage
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zzzzzz: quick Ludious, Ghoulardi! Win the argument quickly before you're kicked!'
Ghoulardi: I specifically stated ALL because most people don't consider themselves Southerners
Todd: snikt!
RaretowN: oh the humanity!!!
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Ghoulardi: They consider themselves AMERICANS
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RaretowN: somebody stop her
RaretowN: somebody
Ghoulardi: You think of yourself as a Southerner
Ludious: Oh come on.
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Ghoulardi: Therefore, I would be correct in assuming that you are seditious
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Ludious: But you'd be wrong.
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Ludious: I love this country.
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Ghoulardi: Even THAT didn't save him!
Ghoulardi: Yet you defended seditious behavior yesterday
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Ludious: snikt, umm are you OK?
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Ludious: Neeed to talk?
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Ludious: Ghoulardi; They're ignorant. They need to be educated not hung.
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Ghoulardi: You defended the dissolution of the country you profess to love
Ghoulardi: You can't have it both ways
Ludious: No I defended ignorant rednecks who have no idea what they're doing whether it be racism or treason.
Ghoulardi: Love America. Or love the South.
Ludious: Ignorance is no reason to hang anyone.
Ghoulardi: I never said you were a racist.
Ghoulardi: I said you were seditious.
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Ludious: So are rappers who favor the west coast over the east coast seditious?
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Ludious: serious question.
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JennGirl: !op
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Ghoulardi: That has nothing to do with the government
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Ludious: Being a southerner has nothing to do with the government it's just a region
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Ghoulardi: However, endorsement of the South as a region is tantamount to endorsement of the CSA. The only means of regional identity that the South has is derived from their association in the Confederacy.
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Ludious: Ghoul: oh that's ignorance
Ghoulardi: Not at all
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Ghoulardi: That's the same regional pride that caused the South to secede in the first place
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Ludious: But it's ok for you to refer to yourself as a West Coaster.
Ghoulardi: You Southerners care more about your precious South than you do about the country
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Ludious: That's a sweeping generalization
Ghoulardi: I'm not a West Coaster. But...nice try.
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Ludious: It was an example.
Ghoulardi: It was a poor example
Ludious: I've seen people refer to themselves as Texans, or Minnasotans, or Northerners even.
Ludious: It's OK for them?
Ghoulardi: No one says they're a Northerner
Ghoulardi: Nobody
Ghoulardi: Wanna know why?
Ludious: I doubt that's true
Ludious: Because you love the country and I don't, right?
Ghoulardi: Because we STOPPED FIGHTING THE WAR
Ghoulardi: Actually, yes
Ludious: Oh, come on.
Ghoulardi: We won
Ghoulardi: Get over it
Ludious: And you really don't believe you're trolling?
Ghoulardi: I'm not
Ludious: I'm GLAD you won.
Ghoulardi: That's not what trolling is
Ghoulardi: However, seditious talk such as yours could be interpreted as trolling.
Ludious: I've never displayed the flag. I've simply defended the displayers based on ignorance. How is that sedition?
Ghoulardi: Ignorance of the law is no excuse for disobeying it
Ghoulardi: And that's what any court in the land would interpret
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Ludious: Snikt: what exactly are you doing?
Ludious: If I may ask
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Ludious: Ghoul: We'll agree to disagree. It's a shame that you feel that I'm a traitor, but I'm not. I love this country just as much as the next guy. I am ashamed of a lot of my southern heritage, but I am very proud of some of it as well.
Ludious: If you feel that's treason, I'm sorry.
Ghoulardi: You've got nothing to be ASHAMED of, though
Ludious: I'm very ashamed of Slavery, etc.
Ghoulardi: It wasn't you that did any of these things.
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Ghoulardi: They had slavery up north, too
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Ludious: I'm not SORRY for it. I'm ashamed it HAPPENED.
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Ghoulardi: Remember, if you took a slave north of the Mason-Dixon, they were still a slave
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JennGirl: guys
Ghoulardi: My guess is, your progenitors had nothing to do with the trade...and if they did, you still don't need to feel guilty about it
JennGirl: knock it off
JennGirl: it's done
JennGirl: or
JennGirl: take it to PM
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babbitt: hello
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i0Nic: hm
i0Nic: what happened there
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Annika: thanks ludious
Annika: what happened?
Annika: Thanks Ludious
Ludious: So why did snikt do that? Was it really over Ghoul and I? And if so, umm, what the fuck?
Annika: where you fighting?
Ludious: I've seen debates go on for HOURS in here
JennGirl: that's a question for her
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Ravvy: what the heck

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